In late 1977, while working as a reporter for the Avalanche-Journal newspaper in Lubbock, Texas, I submitted written testimony to the United States House of Representatives newly-formed Select Committee on Assassinations. 359-360, 386-387. She enjoyed keeping up on the Kennedy family during their years in the White House. Mr. DODD - How long had you been married by the way? Mrs. Bergin paid a great deal of money for that dress. He enjoyed giving to others, and loved the companionship of his four dogs. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes. Mr. CORNWELL - In the conversations you had with other CIA employees, the six or seven persons who purported to have good information about the use of Oswald as an agent, did any of those people say anything to you which suggested that the CIA had some role in the assassination of President Kennedy? Mr. WILCOTT - In 1968. By comparing the window next to them, which measured 14 inches off the floor, one box was about 15 x 30 x 60 inches, and thus had an estimated capacity of 15 cubic feet. Mr. GOLDSMITH - How many people in the CIA? Mr. GOLDSMITH - Is it fair to say that the CIA is an operation that runs itself on a "need-to-know" basis? Mr. WILCOTT - Yes. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes, sir. Mr. WILCOTT - They were extremely vulgar and I don't think that I should give the full context of them. To his left was a door that led into the office of Scott Foresman. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes, for a limited period. JFK Assassination : The James B. Wilcott Files And The CIA Oswald Project: An Investigative Report. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Why did you wait five years? Mr. PREYER - Under our committee rules, Mr. Wilcott, a witness is entitled, at the conclusion of the questioning, to make a five-minute statement if he wishes or to give a fuller explanation of any of his answers; so that at this time we make that five minutes available to you if you care to elaborate or say anything further. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Do you have anything to add in response to that question? Unknown adversaries tormented Cason so much at his home on Druid Lane, that he was forced to relocate to another part of the city. Mr. WILCOTT - I don't remember his name now offhand. G. Robert Blakey, Chief Counsel and Director. TESTIMONY OF JAMES B. WILCOTT, A FORMER EMPLOYEE OF THE CENTRAL INTELLIGENCE AGENCY: Mr. GOLDSMITH - For the record, would you please state your name and address and occupation? Insofar as I know, this information has never been made public. All I remember is that her husband was previously a member of the musical group The Nitty Gritty Dirt Band. She didnt show up for work the next day and didnt pick up her final paycheck. This employee said that fellow employees were subjected to similar job interviews by government agents. [12] Wilcotts 3/22/78 HSCA deposition, pp. That he continued to serve in a military, or semi-military, capacity at the same time he was working for a schoolbook company is indicated by his obituary, which said he was a veteran of World War II. Mr. WILCOTT - I think the most significant thing that can be actually substantiated is the circumstances surrounding my employment with the community renewal program in Utica, and I was the finance analyst for the community renewal program in Utica. I don't recall its origins with clarity, but I think it was given to me by a professor at Southern Methodist University here in Dallas. Mr. DODD - As a point of information, are people who work within the Agency fairly careful in their language in describing what the category of certain people are who work for the Agency? Write to Editor@jfkfacts.org. I am a reporter there. the day we would list all of the advances that were made in an advance book. Mr. SAWYER - What were some other instances? What, on recollection, strikes me as possibly significant is that all three seemed to be exceedingly calm and relaxed, compared to the pandemonium which existed right outside their front door. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes. Yes, I do, and I believe there was such a reference. For in Barry Ernests book, The Girl on the Stairs, the reader will read that both Vickie Adams and Sandy Styles told Barry that they did not see either Shelly or Lovelady when they descended from the fourth floor to the first. Findings of the Select Committee on Assassinations in the Assassination of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. in Memphis, Tenn. April 4, 1968. She said that she had been in the personnel department since 1982, and she never knew anyone by that name. According to former CIA finance officer James B. Wilcott's testimony before the House Select Committee on Assassinations (HSCA), Lee Harvey Oswald "was a regular employee, receiving a full-time salary for agent work, for doing CIA operational work." The White House has announced that a trove of remaining records concerning the assassination of former President John F. Kennedy will not be released as planned, due to the COVID-19 pandemic . Mr. GOLDSMITH - You testified that your records were only kept for thirty days, is that correct? Mr. WILCOTT - No, sir, not that I can recall. In this area were numerous cardboard boxes, four feet square by five feet high. Mr. WILCOTT - I resigned. Ruffians driving by yelled derogatory things and threw objects at the house such as half-empty beer cans. Yet judging by the disgust in his voice when he said at the police station Im just a patsy, he probably did not know that he would be the one accused of killing the president. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes. Mr. WILCOTT - It was at least a matter of weeks and perhaps as much as three months after. [5] Examination of city directories and phone books in the Dallas Public Library shows that the book depository and the publishing companies did not have the 411 Elm Street address until 1963. Mr. WILCOTT - No. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes. [3] Telephone interviews of Campbell March 19, 1994; Jones, March 19, 1994; Williams, April 4, 1994; Garner, August 14, 1999. [22] And this likely included coaxing Shelly and Lovelady into making an ersatz trip across the street to the railroad yards before their return to the TSBD, which is now when they said they saw Styles and Adams. Mr. GOLDSMITH - And for purposes of clarification, now, if Oswald was already dead at the time that you went to this book, why did you go back to examine the book? (Its address, I later learned, was 11310 Gemini Lane.) There are photos of him getting into a police car along with Bonnie Ray Williams and Daniel Arce. Mr. WILCOTT - In December of 1975, in the little magazine called The Pelican at the University of California, and an interview was conducted by a reporter from that magazine. Mr. PREYER - The committee will resume. Mr. WILCOTT - Along those lines they said things like, well, that Oswald couldn't have pulled the trigger, that only CIA could have set up such an elaborate project and there was nobody with the kind of knowledge or information that could have done this, and this was more in the speculative realm. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Who was George Breen? A puzzling aspect of Glazes 1989 letter was his reference to the book depository having moved to a location near the intersection of Royal Lane and Interstate 35. Mr. WILCOTT - Approximately two years, sir. After standing on the front steps to see the shooting of the president, Frazier did something odd, about which he seemed to contradict himself about in an interview with the Sixth Floor Museum in 2013. With perhaps two CIA agents on the same premises, a careful scrutiny of the company they worked for is needed to understand what happened the day President Kennedy was killed. He was the mayor at that time. [20] Before going up the stairs, Truly paused to tell Shelley to guard the stairs and elevators to make sure no one uses them.[21]. I will help any wayI just want to be forewarned. Mr. DODD - I am a little confused, I suppose, Mr. DODD - In. Mr. GOLDSMITH - So, when the officer told you -- strike that. There was XXXXXXXXXXXX Branch, who had XXXXXXXXXXX cover. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes, sir. For many years he assisted organizations that helped veterans, monitored the nuclear power industry, and worked to ensure basic human rights. Mr. WILCOTT - The "need-to-know" principle was not all that we followed, and just about every one of the big projects that the agency was involved in, information leaked out, and we especially within the CIA knew about it, and someone would go to a party and have a little bit too much to drink and start saying things that they really shouldn't be saying to keep in mind what the "need-to-know" principle was. Mr. WILCOTT - Well, I believed it to be a little more than speculation, that the source at least of this kind of talk was, I believe, to be something more serious than speculation. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes, sir. He claims the charges were dropped, but he stated that he turned away several newspapers and magazines offering huge amounts of money for his personal account of the assassination. Would you tell the Committee what the "need-to-know" principle is? Regardless, it ended up in my files around the time we opened the JFK Center in 1989. Dorothy Ann Garner was a former office supervisor of Scott Foresman. Mr. WILCOTT - No. He refused to let me quote him or use his name in print. This is an indication that the covert side of the schoolbook business had shifted to the Scott Foresman and Southwestern building, perhaps because the notoriety of the TSBD had hampered its ability to conduct smuggling operations and thus had to be discontinued. 49, No. Mr. WILCOTT - I believe that Oswald was a double agent, was sent over to the Soviet Union to do intelligence work, that the defection was phoney and it was set up and that I believe that Marina Oswald was an agent that had been recruited sometime before and was waiting their in Tokyo for Lee Harvey Oswald. As far as I know, the unknown Dallas author who interviewed has not published his book. Mr. CORNWELL - Had you ever run into any similar cryptonym? Mr. CORNWELL - Is there any chance that that record stil exists? Mr. SAWYER - How long were you associated with that? At the end of. Out of curiosity, he opened this door and saw a large storage area that took over half of the square footage of the fourth floor. Mr. DODD - In 1957? Mr. GOLDSMITH - Are you saying, then, that the cash disbursement files as a matter of routine would be periodically destoryed? Strange Deaths Of People Who Knew Too Much About The JFK Assassination: 92 Witnesses, Researchers, CIA Agents, Police Officers, Reporters, Girlfriends Who Just Knew Way Too Much! Mr. DODD - And this was a view shared by you and your, wife -- Mr. WILCOTT - I think it must have been two or three omths (sic) after the assassination. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Why not? * JFK Facts editorJefferson Morley will personally answer your JFK questions. Find all the books, read about the author, and more. Mr. GOLDSMITH - And what did he tell you the cryptonym was? I went immediately into the clear space on the ground floor and asked where there was a phone. Please publish modules in offcanvas position. And we thought every year it was going to be coming out, and especially I didn't think that -- since what I had heard was all hearsay that I would never have seen Oswald or anything like that -- this is not the kind of thing that would be used for even something like the Warren Commission, and they would have to have something more substantial than that to go on, aside from the fact that I never would have done it in the CIA, being a very risky thing to do with the CIA. Mr. WILCOTT - That is true. Please excuse this messy letter. The Three Barons proves that it is possible (with enough research), to reconstruct the organizational chart of the JFK plot. Just as in the case of Carolyn Arnold and Roy Truly, the strange menace that Glaze encountered in early 1975 continued to follow him through the course of his life. Mr. WILCOTT - I was able to but I never did. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes. Mr. DODD - Talking about hours afterwards or a day afterwards? Mr. GOLDSMITH - Would your Counsel identify himself for the recorder? WEDNESDAY, MARCH 22, 1978 He was still living on Tatum Avenue at the time of the assassination. Mr. WILCOTT - I do. Investigations of the CIA in the 1960s and 1970s shows that the agency had embedded agents in a wide variety of organizations and institutions, including labor unions, airlines, college student associations, foundations, law firms, banks, savings and loans, investment firms, travel agencies, police departments, post offices, publishing companies, newspapers, call girl services, and mental health institutions. In 1984, they began sending tapes of their programs to public access channels in Dallas and San Antonio and then to other cities around the country, hence the name of the umbrella organization, the Alternative Information Network. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes, they did. I think, or I am certain, in my own mind, that, if these people were approached that some of these people -- Mr. GOLDSMITH - Excuse me, please proceed very slowly. Their apartment looked as if no one had ever lived in it. Dedicated to the political vision and legacy of John and Robert Kennedy, Martin Luther King Jr., and Malcolm X,and to the investigation of their murders. Roy Truly was, up to the time of his death in 1985, continuously frightened by "federal authorities." Mr. GOLDSMITH - Only of Case Officers. That is what we are attempting to accomplish, which is quite a big order. Those are discussions with people who gave the indication that there was every certainty that Oswald was an agent of CIA, runout of XXXXXXX Station, and that he was freed from Russia there in the final courses in Russia and was trained by CIA people at Atsugi. Enclosing the back area is a high, chain-link fence with coils of barbed wire on top. There was a problem loading your book clubs. In my letter to him, I praised him for his courage and expressed the hope that someday he might fill in the gaps of his story for the sake of history. [2] Midnight/Globe, February 14, 1978. Mr. WILCOTT - Oh, yes. Mr. WILCOTT - That is true, sir. Learn more. Mr. WILCOTT - No, I didn't, as far as the Oswald cryptonym was concerned; no, I didn't. Mr. SAWYER - Was he in Utica? Mr. WILCOTT - With any degree of certainty, other than just speculation, I would say, six or seven with some degree of certainty. men asked the employees point blank if they were members of the C.I.A. Mr. WILCOTT - George Breen was a person in Registry, who was my closest friend while I was in XXXXXXXXXXXXXX. It has been directed to the Deputy Chief Counsel in charge of the investigation for his review. It was dated December 12, 1977,[11] and, at the bottom, it had the authors full name. However, the woman became terrified at the mention of it & said she would deny she ever said it if I tried to publicize the incident. His father lost weight and developed a stoop in the way he stood and walked; his hair and facial features aged prematurely. Mr. WILCOTT - No, sir, I did not. Thank you for your kind words and interest. Elzie Dean Glaze passed away on November 15, 2019. Mr. WILCOTT - Well, sir, I think of an agent as an actual employee of the Agency; we called them indigenous agents XX XXXXXX who were agents that were on a regular salary by the case officer who was running an agent, and then there were a lot of one-time informers or maybe one- or two- or three-time informers that were paid like maybe $50 or so to attend a meeting of a political party or something of that nature. Apart from the one officer who said to you that you had paid monies with respect to Oswald's cryptonym, what were the other six or seven persons' purported connection with Oswald and the Agency's relation to him. ", and they might look it over and retype the accounting for funds for their project and, you know, make changes that they might think were in their interest to do. Mr. GOLDSMITH - And have you just described one of those instances to us? Mr. GOLDSMITH - How many people from the CIA did you speak to who speculated that Oswald was an agent? Mr. WILCOTT - Not publicly. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Why would anyone have shared this particular information with you? Mr. WILCOTT - Yes, sir. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Mr. Wilcott, are you here with Counsel today? Mr. WILCOTT - I have no idea, sir. Mr. GOLDSMITH - I understand. Free shipping for many products! However, if you received this information two or three months after the assassination, at a time that Oswald was already dead and had been dead for two or three months, what purpose would have been served by checking records that were only 30 days old? Mr. CORNWELL - What routinely was done with such note pads? Mr. CORNWELL - Is that the only reason? Mr. SAWYER - Could you tell us what those things consisted of? Mr. WILCOTT - Yes, sir. Download the free Kindle app and start reading Kindle books instantly on your smartphone, tablet, or computer - no Kindle device required. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Do you have that list with you? Do you believe that there was such a reference to Oswald? (2009), James W. Douglass explains this in detail, including the James Wilcott story. According to one of the FBI reports of the first interrogation of Oswald in the Dallas homicide office: OSWALD stated that he took this Coke down to the first floor and stood around and had lunch in the employees lunch room. Mr. WILCOTT - That is correct. Please try again. Mr. WILCOTT - It was stated as a fact -- Oswald or the Oswald project. All visits to the building must be strictly business-related. Yet their new location was seven miles south of the intersection of Royal Lane and Interstate 35 at 8301 Ambassador Row. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes. Mr. GOLDSMITH - What was their response? Which he was allegedly working for. 66-67. It also analyzed reviews to verify trustworthiness. It was more of a casual kind of thing, to my way of thinking. Mr. SAWYER - What did he do -- anything? Mr. WILCOTT - Particularly George Breen and XXXXXXXXX to a lesser extent. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Your book. Mr. WILCOTT - Surely, sir. He thereafter went outside and stood around for five or ten minutes with foreman BILL SHELLEY, and thereafter went home. Mr. CORNWELL - But your testimony or your statements on the subject hadn't been made a matter of publicity on any other occasion? Mr. WILCOTT - Yes. It was a total loss. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes. Mr. SAWYER - What were they? But their manner was very relaxed. Mr. SCHAAP - Mr. Chairman, I would like to interpose, I guess, an objection, although I would like to make it more in the nature of a request, that I have some problems in terms of advising my client with respect to possibly self incrimination, that I would not advise him to go into questions of his specific knowledge of the oath and the application to what he did other than the fact that he has told you, which is a fact, that he did sign the oath; but to, go into his mental processes as to whether he felt what he was then doing related to the oath in a particular way, I would request that those questions not be asked on the grounds that they may violate either his First Amendment rights or his Fifth Amendment rights, if that would be all right. Also at this location were the office suites of eight schoolbook publishing companies, including Scott Foresman, Southwestern, Macmillan, and McGraw-Hill. Mr. WILCOTT - Not directly, no, sir. Mr. GOLDSMITH - excuse me, just answer the question very generally, without referring to anything right now, and please describe generally what your responsibilities were as a finance officer. Mr. GOLDSMITH - And when you testified earlier that you learned Oswald's cryptonym, by that do you mean that you learned both Oswald's personal cryptonym and his project cryptonym, or was it one of the two? Mr. GOLDSMITH - Were you ever able to find any indication in any of the XXXXXXX Station's records that Oswald was, in fact, a CIA agent? There were, as I recall, three men there, all I think in shirt sleeves. As a CIA employee, Wilcott stated under oath that many people told him that Lee Harvey Oswald was an agent of the CIA after the assassination had occurred. Mr. SCHAAP - Do you mean, how many people who were in the CIA or how many people in the general population? Since then, he has written numerous articles on the subject for various periodicals, including The Fourth Decade, Dealey Plaza Echo, and Probe. She and three co-workersVictoria Adams, Sandra Styles, and Elsie Dormanviewed the shooting of the president from their fourth-floor office window. Mr. PREYER - I would like before we begin to read a written statement concerning the subject of the investigation. Through another researcher, I obtained Glazes mailing address. What it was is hard to guess. There is a very large spider guarding this web of secrecy. Mr. WILCOTT - I was recruited from the school in Syracuse New York, where I was taking a course in accounting and busi- ness administration. Mr. WILCOTT - They never revealed that to me, sir, as far as their relations with Oswald. Since the floors were not strong enough to accommodate forklifts, he wondered how the warehouse men could have moved such enormous boxes. Mr. WILCOTT - Destroyed or changed. Prior to this time, the building was occupied by a wholesale grocery company engaged in supplying restaurants and institutions.[4] The wholesale grocery company was the John Sexton Company. He was still there when Garner retired in 1986. Mr. GOLDSMITH - To your personal knowledge, CIA records XXXXXXXXXX were destroyed? In the new 2017 November release of JFK documents, he was interviewed in executive session under oath by the House Select Committee On Assassinations on March 22,1978. Mr. CORNWELL - In the conversations which you have described occurring within a period of one, two or three months after the assassination with other CIA employees and officers, did they suggest in those conversations to you that their employment, the CIA's employment, of Oswald had any relation to the assassination or only that it related to the, events you have already described -- namely, the training of him in Atsugi in the Russian language and the sending of him to Russia and using of him as a double agent and that sort of thing? Mr. WILCOTT - Usually I threw them away at the end of the day or once in a while I would put it in -- I had a little folder where I kept personal things and it is possible I could have out it in there, but certainly it would have bee destroyed when I left. Do you follow the question? William Weston began researching the assassination of President Kennedy in 1992, after making a comparison of Anthony Summers excellent book Conspiracy to a book defending the official version called Final Disclosure by David Belin. The band started out in 1966 in Long Beach, California, and became known for its unique blend of country western and rock and roll. files -- my internal files, prior to the end of the month. As we shall see, this might have been designed to conceal the fact that some people working there were being harassed and bullied. That was the SR branch which had all of the projects having anything to do with the Soviet Union. Mr. GOLDSMITH - At the time you went to look at the book, Oswald was already dead is that correct? Ms. Berning. Mr. WILCOTT - The principal reason. I do. I apologize. Mr. WILCOTT - Most of the people were involved in the civil rights movement or in the antiwar movement in 1968. And I think that is why I probably heard a lot more things than other people did, for instance, than my wife did, because of that situation. Why would men who had just shown their FBI identification badges suspect that new employees were concealing the fact that they too were connected to an intelligence agency? According to his testimony to the Warren Commission, after graduating from high school, he worked in defense plants a little bit during the war and started working at the Texas School Book Depository.[15] The short amount of time between his graduation in late May 1945 and the end of World War II on September 2 plus his employment in defense plants seems to conflict with his claim that he joined an intelligence service and became an officer. Obviously, my handwriting has long been broken down. Mr. WILCOTT - It is based on the principle that only those persons who are involved in a project or involved in operation -- and even things that would not seem to be at all in any way secret -- only those people should know about, it and nobody else should know about it, and that was a "need-to-know" basis Mr. GOLDSMITH - Did you check any of the earlier books? I asked the first man I sawa man who was telephoning from a pillar in the middle of the roomwhere I could call from. When I interviewed him, he was living alone with his three cats, depending for his income on the charity of his father and disability checks. Mr. PREYER - And you did mention the case officer who came in and told you that the money he had drawn out a few weeks earlier was drawn out for Oswald? Mr. WILCOTT - All of the people that we mentioned in the case. Mr. PREYER - He stated that as a fact and not that he believed it was drawn out for Oswald or it could have been or something like that? Mr. WILCOTT - Yes, I am. The CIA and the JFK Assassination. SILENCED! Below is Mr. Glazes letter: House of Re. Mr. PREYER - I understand this might be a good place for us to break and go and vote, so that we will take another recess for about ten minutes. Mr. WILCOTT - They would have summaries of some sort. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes. This would include things like: (1) determining lines of fire from upper story windows, (2) planning the access and escape routes for the sniper team, (3) positioning and controlling the designated patsy as a workman inside the building, (4) fabricating evidence such as rifle, cartridges, and paper bag to implicate the patsy, (5) selecting the so-called snipers nest where the ersatz evidence would be planted. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes, you did. Butler took over as branch manager after Leon transferred to Los Angeles. Barons proves that it is possible ( with enough research ), to my way of thinking day and pick!, 1978 I suppose, mr. 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