bill simmons hall of fame pyramid updated

Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. 182. As far as the 2013 inductees are concerned and their tier placement is concerned: He was truly unique in his play style. Current popularity and connection to grunge aside, Neil Young isn't worthy of the high ranking he's been afforded. But every 15 that are added should mean one more to Level 5, two more to 4, and so on. 1995 The Orioles Tina Turner: 9/10 Either the music stands up or it doesn't." Did they hit sell millions of records, have over a dozen hits or win a lot of awards? 2013 Curtis Mayfield on Thursday, 03.7.13 @ 23:05pm "Got A Job" The Marcels I'm a musician myself, my band plays a mix of originals and 70s/80s/90s rock covers, and Radiohead's name never comes up between any of us. "Oh Be My Love"- Barbara Lewis, The Supremes, Barbara McNair. Tom Waits: 8/10 The O'Jays: 7/10 Posted by The Dude on Tuesday, 01/1/2019 @ 14:24pm, How about a pyramid for the Early Influence category, with Wanda Jackson and Freddie King as a 1 because they never should have been inducted in that category? The Cars Were they the greatest team of all time? Bailey Howell, 104. 82. 10. 1988, 1986, 2001, 2004, 1997, Posted by Alec on Monday, 04/21/2014 @ 23:04pm, I'll play along: I can name more than one song by Costello (come on, at least give him Pump it Up), but I really don't see a career that matches up well against The Talking Heads in terms of influence, innovation or popularity. -Most influential? 166. Call it elitist, call it exclusionary, but I've experienced a major shift in how I listen to music and evaluate it. The Go - Go's: 7/10 Roxy Music: 8/10 OK, why are Frank Zappa and the Bee Gees on the same tier? Shaq, 12. Clyde Drexler. Joni Mitchell Pink Floyd I just don't have a problem with it. I agree with others that acts like Deep Purple, Yes, Nine Inch Nails, Kiss, Miles Davis, T. Rex, Whitney Houston & Nina Simone should be at 2. Most snubbed before finally inducted: Hall and Oates. Among these are: And in each role the actor shines with tools he says hes gained from poetry, his family, and yes, even clown class. Dire Straits- 2 This pyramid, while not updated, has provided a lot of inspiration for my list that I'm currently writing: the Rock and Roll Hall of Famers ranked from best to worst. Run-D.M.C. I assumed you meant the bottom, but I don't wanna put words in your mouth. Distantly tied for third includes Flavor Flav, Lennon ("I'm starting a new religion, and I'm calling it baggism"), Sly Stone. I read from his column that he ranked Duncan 7th and Kobe 15th. Glory And to me, the John Stockton vs. Chris Paul debate would be the most important chapter. Dire Straits - 1 MVP Offline Posts: 9456. The Clash Both were the darlings of the same type of audience in their day, but REM was a very different type of band. Nine Inch Nails (Level 2) Who isn't? 1987 T-Bone Walker Tom Waits AC/DC (Yes, feel free to flame me! He followed that up with 6 more solid seasons including 2 more All-NBA teams and 3 more All-Star appearances. Bob Seger Parker was really, really good for a long time. George Harrison T. Rex-3 6. 1988 My occasional communication efforts within this forum is generally framed around acknowledging my own biases and attempting to subvert them for more rationale dialog. 106. "Love Machine" Wham!, Thelma Houston Are you serious? I was reviewing a post which I had written some time ago. And yeah the Dead should have been a star on top of this pyramid, gazing down. The Band: 9/10 Rodin Hood: Men In Tights 222. If someone HAD to go for him, it would probably be Ray Charles. Albert King: 1, Posted by Classic Rock on Monday, 02/11/2013 @ 20:53pm. Posted by Mike on Tuesday, 04/2/2019 @ 14:58pm, Radiohead is widely considered the most influential and important act since Nirvana. Mike Roberts WVEE-FM & WQMJ 2015 70. Dwayne Wade [up from Level 3, below Walton]. NWA pulls a 2 and everyone else a 1. Favorite induction year? Pearl Jam (they stay the same, I meant for them to be in the middle) But if there was an "Early Influences" pyramid, then Sister Rosetta Tharpe would at least be a 4. 45. Rush (middle 4th) Buffalo Springfield: 6/10 There are a lot of critic's darlings that fade over time. Bill Simmons Hall of Fame Pyramid; ABA All-Time Team; NBA & ABA All-Star Game. Posted by Plebeian on Wednesday, 05/12/2021 @ 23:27pm, 2020 The Ronettes: 6/10 Lynyrd Skynyrd You were being facetious, were you not? 54. 2005, 1999 like I said, a lot of great years, Posted by Philip on Saturday, 03/9/2013 @ 21:58pm. 156. I don't see Nine Inch Nails. BB King: 10/10 Patti Smith: 9/10 Posted by Follower on Wednesday, 01/2/2019 @ 04:20am. Posted by shrek on Friday, 01/11/2019 @ 20:45pm. The Cure: 8/10 127. Otis Redding: 10/10 Almost all of their hits were self-written, making them unique among Motown acts. Free shipping for many products! 2020: Kiss: 7/10 Most nicest inductee? "Would I Love You" - Len Barry. Queen: 10/10 "The Tears of a Clown" La Toya Jackson, The Beat, The Rocking Chairs, The Re-Bops, Nnenna Freelon, The Flying Pickets, Caligula, Human Nature, Enuff Z'Nuff, Eumir Deodato, Brian Ray, Marc Cohn, Phil Collins. Bob Marley, too. I like to use the pages devoted to my favorite artists to inform other posters and hopefully get them interested enough in pursuing earlier eras of music. Most unworthy inductee: Percy Sledge, Prince, Madonna, Randy Newman, Laura Nyro. 65. The Bee Gees: 9/10 Can't answer in seven. However, my perception of The Pretenders has always been that they are similar in stature to Heart (which is accurately depicted in the Pyramid with both on Tier 1). 96. Braveheart Not one bad inductee among either class. But Elvis Presley was known for his kindness and generosity (up to the mid-50's) 112. La Bomba [same thing] Ray Charles. Rating Numbers: ), Dolly Parton, Boyz II Men, Human Nature, among many others -This is covered under "most civilized", don't you think? Gene Vincent & The Blue Caps: 7/10 Is anyone ever going to move up fro level 4 to level 5? Favorite Hip-Hop inductee? The Book of Basketball - Bill Simmons 2010-12-07 . For rap artists, I would get rid of Public Enemy and replace them with 2Pac or Eminem and move Run DMC and Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five up higher. Big Joe Turner "I Don't Blame You At All" - Rosetta Hightower. Bob Dylan. Future Hall of Famer Steve Kerr joins Bill to discuss a quarter-century of learning The Secret in Chicago (with Michael Jordan and Phil Jackson), San Antonio (with Tim Duncan and Gregg Popovich), and Phoenix (with Steve Nash), and then how Kerr watched it unfold during his historic run as the coach of the three-time champion Golden State Warriors. Aerosmith: 9/10 Level 5: 206. 8. "Shop Around" Captain & Tennille, Don Bryant, The Astronauts, The Allusions, and Georgie Fame, Neil Merryweather and Lynn Carey, among numerous others. Black Sabbath: 10/10 Then, on Feb. 24, 2019, he revised Curry to be top 20. Wilt, 6. Jackson Browne: 7/10 You are pleased to answer anytime you want. Both are hugely important in roots rock and country rock scenes. AC/DC: 9/10 The Moody Blues, when inducted, should sit on the 5th tier. 61. 67. Most quiet inductee? Dusty Springfield: 8/10 The "most civilized" question is mostly on how the artist acts in society or performances. Clyde McPhatter: 8/10 Bobby Womack People will still be listening to their music, hundreds, if not thousands of years from now. Most mean inductee? Both won MVP. 4. Can't wait until 2pac and Eminem are inducted! Nina Simone -Hard to say ultimately, it's really about the music and their commitment to it. NWA pulls a 2 and everyone else a 1. Cat Stevens The Temptations: 10/10 Fleetwood Mac: 8/10 And if you did mean the bottom tier, I'm a little surprised putting Joan Baez down there. Cheap Trick The Van Halen brothers managed to get rid of both their main lead singers. Tier 5 looks pretty solid. (This is an incomplete list, as songs by the Miracles continue to be covered by more artists each year) Bill Simmon's Hall of Fame Pyramid Can you name the Bill Simmon's Hall of Fame Pyramid? Al Green: 9/10 U2 Eddie Cochran: 9/10 Neil Young: 10/10 Duane Eddy: 6/10 The Ventures The Miracles, Motown's first group, are the most covered Motown group of ALL TIME. History of The World Part 1 Even if she directly influenced the Riot Grrl scene. The most "most mean" is on how the artist's relation to people. Guns N' Roses The Dells: 5/10 The Ramones are a case in point. "I Gotta Dance to Keep From Crying" The Who, Jimmy James. Name Affiliation Year. The Four Seasons From what I can gather, they were celebrated because they never quite made it, and because, as is wont to happen, their creative limitations were reinterpreted as a profound artistic statement. I agree with all the placements this year except Radiohead. "Come On Do The Jerk" The Righteous Brothers , The T-Bones Johnny Cash: 10/10 (when you say the U.K., does this include Australia? The present facility was officially dedicated May 26, 1973 and has since had two additions. Looking at the bottom rung of artists, some of their followers are in the hall (Allmusic). 2002 But, to each their own. 152. I love this site and all the work you do. I don't think either of them have been as influential, but obviously that's my biggest criteria. -Kindest? Duran Duran, Eurythmics, Carly Simon, Pat Benatar, Lionel Richie would all be level 1's in I'm afraid. move to 2: Star in 1972, The Jackson Five. For anyone else that wants to create a pyramid for this year's nominations here is a format for everyone to follow in order to create some structure follow this format. John Mellencamp "Mighty Good Lovin"-Edwin Starr, Chris Clark. James Brown didn't either but he was arguably much closer to rock than Ray Charles was while he was performing, same goes for Stevie Wonder. On which levels do you think each of these artists belongs? Michael Jackson, Sly Stone, George Clinton, Flava Flav, Prince, Frank Zappa, Dr. John, and Brian Wilson. Level Four: Brendan Fraser (we can't really have him above anyone else here) 3/10 = Mediocre Well, the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Museum in Cleveland is already shaped like a pyramid 2, so it was only natural to take Simmons' baseball idea and apply it to rock and roll.. Billy Joel: 9/10 Depeche Mode: 8/10 ISBN: 978-0345511768 and 034551176X. 1993 The Buddy Holly Story [same thing here] I also feel EXACTLY the same about John Lennon. I just never drank the Kool-aid. He was the 2nd best player on the Lakers teams from '08-'10, but didn't make the cut for the original Pyramid. Led Zeppelin On which levels do you think each of these artists belongs? 12. I'd also argue that Judas Priest, LL Cool J and Kraftwerk deserve to be on the pyramid as they are in no way sidemen or pre-rock. whitney houston - 3 or 4 The Jackson 5 Let me know if my analogies don't work as well. Journey "Who's Gonna Take The Blame" Capone N. Noreaga (as the basis of their song "Live On Live Long"). Ramones: 10/10 Judas Priest would have been a Level 2 if they were inducted as performers. Part of the best shooting backcourt of all-time and a key part in the Warriors dynasty. 2000 Billie Holiday Steely Dan Joan Baez- 4 What seemed important 15 years ago may not seem as important now. The Book of Basketball: The NBA According to The Sports Guy. Nirvana: 10/10 Probably 1993 (Doors & CCR), or else the first two classes (lots of 50's/early 60's favorites). 1990 Charlie Christian 129. Elvis Presley: 10/10 189. Did the management of this establishment put you up to this? Subscribe: Apple Podcasts / Art19 / Spotify / Google Podcasts. Lavern Baker: 6/10 In a word, no. "Special Occasion - Jim Gilstrap. The Moonglows: 6/10 KISS Were the 2012-14 Spurs historically underrated? 78. Ive listened to almost every Simmons podcast episode on NBA stuff in the past year during my commutes, which is honestly way too much time :sweat_smile: . Posted by Corey Finn on Wednesday, 05/4/2022 @ 08:15am. Bon Jovi would, naturally, be closer to the bottom, Posted by Tyler Partnow on Tuesday, 09/25/2018 @ 20:19pm. I think this is perhaps because they are an entitled bunch of dicks and no-one likes them as human beings, but also because people don't realise: The Book of Basketball - Bill Simmons 2010-12-07 NEW YORK TIMES BESTSELLER The NBA according to The Sports Guynow updated with fresh takes on LeBron, the Celtics, and more! "What's So Good About Goodbye" Giant Sunflower, The Temptations, Quix*O*Tic 2/10 = Failure Joan Baez - 1 Righteous Brothers: 7/10 At least FIVE ACTS in Level 5 of this Pyramid have PUBLICLY ADMITTED that THEY and/or their MUSIC has been INFLUENCED by The Clash: 10/10 David Bowie Any content deemed inappropriate or offensive may be edited and/or deleted. to "Did they influence a lot of acts afterwards?" 95. But Neil aside, I like your other changes. I quit listening to the "Classic Rock" stuff back in my senior year of high school. By 2030, most people will agree he's the best basketball player ever as the memories of MJ fade even more. "According to several websites, the Miracles are one of the most oft-covered groups in recorded history and the most covered Motown group ever. 110. 3)John Lennon-Imagine being so overrated, it isn't hard to do, too much love being in the Beatles, but that should have been all for you. 44. The Last Samurai Big Joe Turner: 9/10 90. Jimmy Reed "Doggone Right" Bobby Davis. Neil Young They were rarely acclaimed critically and/or commercially. 102. 219. "I Second That Emotion" Japan, Michael McDonald, Kiki Dee, The Manhattan Transfer, Jerry Garcia, Diana Ross & the Supremes with the Temptations, 10db, Tammy Wynette, Jos Feliciano, Emilie, Stuck In The Middle, Thelma Jones. Paul Pierce, 53. Aretha Franklin (Level 5) Thought of doing something interesting. Tier 3 - Tupac Shakur, Pearl Jam Please answer the best you can. 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